Jack's History

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Re: Jack's History

Postby Porkchop Express » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:04 pm

Ninjahero wrote:Nice. Fun ideas to play with. Jack always struck me as the former HS football player. Athletic enough to be a star in High School, but not enough to go on to college. He doesn't seem very disciplined, which makes me shy away from a military idea. But he likes to wander. I could see him following his favorite rock band on tour for a year or two.


I also see Jack as some small town HS football star. Very popular, arrogant, and quite the ladies man in High School. He did however get a scholarship to a small college but couldn't quite make the grades to keep his scholarship. He knew he wasn't going pro anyways. After that he went back home and did some odd jobs. Maybe tried his hand at being a used car or door to door salesman. That would explain why he's so good at playing different personas (Henry Swanson). Until finally he stumbles upon trucking. And after that we have the Jack Burton that we all know and love.
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Old Jack » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:41 am

Jack met Wang on his first trip to San Francisco. Jack was hauling cabbages from Northern California and decided to head to Chinatown to check out the sites. Jack being Jack found his way into an illegal casino where he happened upon a despondent Wang trying to fast talk his way out of having his legs broken by two thugs over some 'trivial' gambling debts he had run up.

All Jack really wanted was to blow some money, drink some beer, and meet some girls, but never one to shy away from righting a perceived wrong, Jack steps in and offers to pay Wang's debt. Wang's, and the thugs', confusion is obvious. Jack saunters up to the roulette wheel and puts the keys to his rig on red offering the winnings to pay the debt.

The casino manager indicates to take the bet. The wheel spins, the ball drops, and after a handful of tense heartbeats the wheel slows and the ball drops. Onto black.

Silence.

'Hey guys, let's talk about this..' Jack starts as the thugs move in on him, when an incomprehensible, to Jack, string of Cantonese cuts over the swelling murmur of anticipated violence. The thugs back away releasing Wang, who immediately grabs Jack and pulls him out of the casino. Jack never notices the wheelchair rolling away, nor the wizened little man by the bar.

Wang thanks Jack profusely and promises buy back his truck. Jack tells him not to worry about it, it belonged to the company he worked for (which he hated) and it wasn't his to begin with.

So begins a beautiful friendship.
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Porkchop Express » Wed May 03, 2017 9:38 pm

Old Jack wrote:Jack met Wang on his first trip to San Francisco. Jack was hauling cabbages from Northern California and decided to head to Chinatown to check out the sites. Jack being Jack found his way into an illegal casino where he happened upon a despondent Wang trying to fast talk his way out of having his legs broken by two thugs over some 'trivial' gambling debts he had run up.



I actually picture Jack and Wang's first encounter as the opposite of this. I just don't see Wang as the type to have gambling debts to begin with let alone be the type of person to try and weasel out of a situation. Wang has always came across to me as the respectable, responsible, and soft spoken type. I know Wang was gambling and lost money at the beginning of the film but for some reason I have a feeling that was out of character for Wang. I can actually picture Jack as the one who gets himself into a little trouble in an underground gambling den having accumulated a debt he can't pay. And with Jack being Jack trying to talk his way out of it and making the situation worse. lol. And Wang coming to his rescue.
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Porkchop Express » Wed May 03, 2017 9:55 pm

Bazooka Goof wrote:Interesting thread. :)

Not sure if Jack would have been in the military- the thing that makes me doubt is his forgetting to flick off the safety of the TEC-9. Prior to the movie, he doesn't seem to be proficient with guns.

He may have wanted to be an actor earlier in his life, or did some theatre work in high school- see how smoothly he pulled off his "Henry Swanson" character?



I agree with not seeing Jack going into the military. He didn't seem very comfortable with firearms and I can't see him as the type who takes commands from officers above him. You gotta remember Jacks a lone wolf. Some even might say Jacks a one man army. lol. I also don't see him as a theatre type. Personally I believe Jack has experience at being a con man in his earlier years. Maybe used car salesman or door to door. Taking on different personas to aid him along. You know the funny this is that we all love Jack but he's probably not a person we would want to hang around with in real life. lol.
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Bazooka Goof » Sat May 06, 2017 4:58 pm

Porkchop Express wrote:You know the funny this is that we all love Jack but he's probably not a person we would want to hang around with in real life. lol.


I don't know, he's charming in his own way. I might hang with him. :)
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Ninjahero » Sun May 07, 2017 7:07 am

I think we all want to hang out with him...on his next adventure. Let's battle the supernatural. ;-)
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Porkchop Express » Thu May 11, 2017 6:26 pm

Oh don't get me wrong. He might be fun to hang around with once or twice but that's about it. Heck even Jack himself said "sooner or later I rub everybody the wrong way". Sounds like through past experience that even he knows that the majority of people end up not liking him. lol.
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Re: Jack's History

Postby Ninjahero » Fri May 12, 2017 5:35 am

Yeah, it's easy to see his personality becoming abrasive. Plus he's clearly a gambler. We've only seen him win. Wonder how angry he gets when he loses.
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